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Violence in the Media/Video Games
« on: October 06, 2009, 02:37:29 AM »
This is a rather controversial topic. I'm sure that most - if not all - of us have seen something on TV or in a movie, or played at least 1 video game that contained violent content. (Teenage males, especially.) My question to all of you is: Do you think that violent content in the media causes a person become violent themselves?

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 07:12:31 AM »
This very issue is one thing why there are some general warnings such as "Do not try this at home.", "PG-13", etc. Some games like these are the GTA series, etc which uses Guns, Goons and Gold.

my thoughts in a nutshell: violent images may bring out violence in someone who has a predisposition to violence, just like stress brings out mental illness with those having a predisposition to it.

just because A comes before B does not mean A caused B, its a logical fallacy.

I play moderately violent video games, rated M, not of the "Im going to go kill some pimps and hookers, then blow off a cops head" variety. but while i play games about fighting, i have no urge to chop up animals or dismember people, in fact: id rather cuddle.

It's called "Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc"

The assumption that violent videogames or movies desensitize you to violence has only been substantiated by one study. In this study, there were two groups.

1. Exposed to violent movies and video games, then shown a clip of live, brutal beatings. Heart rate did not increase.

2. Exposed to typical, everyday life movies and puzzle games, then shown the same clip. Heart rate increased.

The problem with this study is that they were shown movies/clips in both instances.

Watching violent movies desensitizes you to violent movies, not necessarily violence in general. Most of the time, we get desensitized because we *tell* ourselves it is just a movie.

Bobo Doll Experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobo_doll_experiment

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 02:04:38 PM »
I agree on your stance, and you make interesting points. My reasons, are slightly different, however.

First, as you've lightly touched upon, there's hardly any evidence that proves that violent media causes a person to become violent or agressive. You'll see studies that do show a correlation, and you'll see studies that don't. The results are very mixed. In quite a number of studies, there's even evidence that overall violence has been declining.

Secondly, I honestly believe that violence is learned through more direct forms. For example, which would you say is more influential: being in an environment where you see with your own eyes heartless brutality (or even experience it yourself), or watching some action movie where the good and bad guys are duking it out and shooting half a dozen holes in each other?

Thirdly, I think it really depends on the person's mental stability and/or how well defined their line between fantasy and reality is. Younger kids don't know any better: they'll be watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and see one of the turtles kicking bad-guy butt and think to themselves "Oh, hey. That looks cool!" and end up re-enacting the scene with one of their playmates. Likewise with other hero/superhero shows. They don't realize that could seriously harm someone because they barely know the difference between fantasy and reality. I imagine it to be similar for someone who is mentally unstable as well. Someone that's stable and really knows the difference between the two wouldn't go out shooting and mercilessly kill people, even if they see or do it in shooting games.

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 06:38:36 PM »
I believe that people who have a mental disablities that watch violence are prone to it. That's what happened at the Columbine Shootings. They were messed up and "Doom", the game that they played, was fuel to the fire.

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 01:22:35 AM »
This is a rather controversial topic. I'm sure that most - if not all - of us have seen something on TV or in a movie, or played at least 1 video game that contained violent content. (Teenage males, especially.) My question to all of you is: Do you think that violent content in the media causes a person become violent themselves?

This is sad... I gerw up on DOS games (I played also Wolfenstaind or Duke Nukem) BUT more than that I played Wacky Wheels...
But today the parents calmly buy theyr 10 years old son a GTA... That's more violent then Duke N or Wolfenstain... They should more play games like AoE or something like that, but that did't cause so many "adventure"...
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 01:32:09 AM »
this was something I thought about posting a while ago, but I couldn't get it out properly. I think that this problem arose from a select few people, but mostly from over reactive parents that make a stereotype that says all kids will be affected by violent video games. I, like Lance, have grown up with plenty of violent games, mainly fantasy ones at first like Legend of Zelda, but it turned into Call of Duty, GTA, and plenty others. Because of my normally violent nature, it was normal for people to think I was affected.note that I try to avoid this board since I tend to get bad responses or make myself look stupid
I would be lying if I said I wasn't changed by the games, I was a little. However, I am mentally stable, I hope at least, enough to tell that what happens in a game/movie doesn't happen in real life all the time.
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 07:08:47 AM »
this was something I thought about posting a while ago, but I couldn't get it out properly. I think that this problem arose from a select few people, but mostly from over reactive parents that make a stereotype that says all kids will be affected by violent video games. I, like Lance, have grown up with plenty of violent games, mainly fantasy ones at first like Legend of Zelda, but it turned into Call of Duty, GTA, and plenty others. Because of my normally violent nature, it was normal for people to think I was affected.note that I try to avoid this board since I tend to get bad responses or make myself look stupid
I would be lying if I said I wasn't changed by the games, I was a little. However, I am mentally stable, I hope at least, enough to tell that what happens in a game/movie doesn't happen in real life all the time.

Yeah. I separeted that too and I'm concider as a ''crazy man'' but beacause I talk too much. These games didn't chaged me as much as those who can't separate fiction from reality.

But they're still many ppls what can't do that. Thats a sad part :(
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 10:47:44 PM »
It depends on your character. I am someone who has less common sense than the average human being (I'm speaking the truth here. I really lack the ability to tell the seriousness of a situation, and thus hurt people easily, and for reasons I can't tell). If you do not have common sense, it is easy for violence to get to you, since you can just watch it and think, "Oh, since they do that, it can't be that serious."

It's sort of dangerous.

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 01:21:37 AM »
It depends on your character. I am someone who has less common sense than the average human being (I'm speaking the truth here. I really lack the ability to tell the seriousness of a situation, and thus hurt people easily, and for reasons I can't tell). If you do not have common sense, it is easy for violence to get to you, since you can just watch it and think, "Oh, since they do that, it can't be that serious."

It's sort of dangerous.

This is where you should watch your actions and monitor your temper, 'Kay? :seraismile:

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 06:50:02 AM »
I think it only has to do with each other when you're young. I mean, parents should look after what they little kids watch or play with. But if you're grown up (and, well, yes, if you have common sense - sorry Kirro), you should be able to tell apart games/movies and real life. And you can even use these things to your own good. I mean, these films and games are made on a purpose, and I doubt game-maker companies would actually want to make people violent, ne? For example, I used to play GTA while I had it (yeah, despite I'm a girl), and it was actually good for reducing stress... because I go on the road and do stupid things in the game like going around with the tank and crashing cars and burning them xD and thus I avoid being irritative and shouting with my family members (which I tend to do when I'm stressed otherwise). And I like to watch CSI - because I'm very much into psychiatry, and that's a kind of experience. I just have to make it clear to myself that it doesn't have to happen in real life, and my purpose isn't to act like that. And since I'm old enough for that, it's all OK.
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 08:36:08 AM »
^Hehe. For that stres relive I have a PS simulator with TEKKEN and coin automat games like Metal Slug ;)
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 02:23:24 PM »
The only ones who can, or should, make that decision are the parents.  If you're old enough to buy the game yourself, however, you're probably old enough to tell the difference between game and reality.

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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 02:39:19 PM »
The only ones who can, or should, make that decision are the parents.  If you're old enough to buy the game yourself, however, you're probably old enough to tell the difference between game and reality.

That probably have a priority.
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 03:42:26 PM »
The only ones who can, or should, make that decision are the parents.  If you're old enough to buy the game yourself, however, you're probably old enough to tell the difference between game and reality.
This is almost the same to what I said - so I agree. ^^
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Re: Violence in the Media/Video Games
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 07:10:43 PM »
What about violence in IPods? Did you see the IGun? :o