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Re: Are MOBAs any good?
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2015, 07:06:11 AM »
Silly thread-split for
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Debates/Serious Discussions
imo :P

Well, a certain person was very clear about actual MOBA discussion with arguments being too serious a topic for the chatterbox. And emotions were flaring up.
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Re: Are MOBAs any good?
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2015, 12:10:34 PM »
There is no such thing as "objectively" better.
Well, that's just like your subjective opinion, man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

And yeah, that's what every debate does eventually come down to :P And arguing about how things are ALWAYS subjective does make one sound ALMOST as silly as Obi Wan when he says "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" XD


Silly thread-split for
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Debates/Serious Discussions
imo :P

Yeah. And I assume this isn't going to go much further as I think all sides have made their views clear, but as Sun said, it was a bit too debatey to be split to the chatterbox. And the debate was hijacking another thread, so I figured a frivolous split was better than TOO much off topic.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2015, 01:46:44 PM by legacyblade »

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Re: Are MOBAs any good?
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2015, 08:30:32 AM »
I've had plenty of productive debates/discussions in my life, and with both parties sharing opposing views at that. Preventing a discussion from getting heated/degrading into nitpicks relies on the parties both being mature and knowledgeable. Debates aren't about winning. They're about understanding another perspective. If there was a clear winner, it wouldn't even be a discussion topic in the first place.

I think it's rather sad, what it says about Freebirdians, when most debates here either peter out or end up in some proto flame war.

I'll just drop my on-topic stuff here.

I've never played a MOBA, and I never will because I think they run on terrible game design (yes, that is subjective). It boils down to 2 main characteristics of MOBAs: small team size and random multiplayer.

The smaller the team, the greater the impact a good player will have, and conversely, the more a poor player will become a burden to their team. Add random teams and non-existent coordination to that, and you will almost be guaranteed a frustrating, hair-tearing experience. And I absolutely refuse to play any game if there is even the slightest chance that I'd stop playing feeling even worse than when I started.

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Re: Are MOBAs any good?
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2015, 07:50:41 AM »
I started heroes of the storm recently, but I got bored out of it as well. Anything that requires you to grind too much to get a hero/character that you very much wanted is a no-no for me. I've done enough of that in LoL. Plus you still get angry in HotS as well.
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Re: Are MOBAs any good?
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2015, 10:40:11 AM »
I don't usually dig games that require you to team up with random people online, especially when they are meant to be competitive.  If not always, cooperation is mostly half-assed, which then leads to even more pointless arguing.