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Title: Religion.
Post by: GingerCorslette on February 02, 2015, 08:51:05 AM
Let's talk about all things religion.

Show respect and be nice.  Accept that we all have different views, meaning, someone will always disagree with you.  Consequently, if this is a touchy subject for you, you are advised to stay away.

Please be elaborate!  Don't just come and post things like 'God created everything' or 'the Koran is the perfect word of the creator' or 'There's no God'.  State why you believe or think so.

Ultimately, the goal here is to have people from different walks of life learn from each other.   :gothat!:
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Double A on February 02, 2015, 09:20:14 AM
Hmm, seems like something interesting. Although I do worry a little bit.....
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: A Fat Kid on February 02, 2015, 09:33:31 AM
I have never once seen such an explosive topic stay civil, ever. Especially once I give an honest, non-politically correct opinion.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Abrom on February 02, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
Yeah, I don't have high hopes for this either. Here's the thing about the internet - if you say something that another person doesn't agree with, then you're going to hear about it. When you apply that same mentality to religion...it's never going to work out. Granted, these are probably the nicest forums I've ever been on, and you mentioned that only those with an open mind to discuss religion should post here, however, I imagine that it's still going to rub someone the wrong way.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: GingerCorslette on February 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AM
I get what you guys mean, but that should be covered by the stickied Rules thread, right?  But then again, maybe religion is an exception...
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: UNICORN! on February 03, 2015, 06:18:18 AM
Why is there no UNICORNISM!?
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: EgotisticalRaven on February 03, 2015, 06:19:30 AM
I didn't know that UNICORN! was allowed in the serious debate threads....
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Double A on February 03, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
:/
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: fenzil on February 12, 2015, 09:34:23 PM
Why is there no UNICORNISM!?

Supposedly the Bible talks about unicorns.  :plat:
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Just Lance on February 19, 2015, 01:15:31 PM
I dunno man I can usually talk about religion as long as someone doesn't shove theirs my way... But as mentioned it rarely can be that way. I have talked religion with Christians and Muslim, Hare Krishna and given my own believes with Buddhists as well. I had some minor conversation about Hindu given my flatmate Indian heritage but as far as I know he is a non practitioner.

So I think that discussing religion will not really bloom here for simple reason of that we can fairly imagine there will be too much different opinions... and believe me in some cases your believe being it religion or other believe can totally destroy a relationship.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Roxaszu on February 19, 2015, 03:37:34 PM
I dunno man I can usually talk about religion as long as someone doesn't shove theirs my way... But as mentioned it rarely can be that way. I have talked religion with Christians and Muslim, Hare Krishna and given my own believes with Buddhists as well. I had some minor conversation about Hindu given my flatmate Indian heritage but as far as I know he is a non practitioner.

So I think that discussing religion will not really bloom here for simple reason of that we can fairly imagine there will be too much different opinions... and believe me in some cases your believe being it religion or other believe can totally destroy a relationship.

Let put this simple.
Sometimes,
For some people in different country or continent,

Religion and Money can be a really sensitive topic.
And they usually won't say too much about it and better for them to not even talk about it to avoid the differences.

Since that differences and disagreement usually makes people fight each other.
I don't say this is a bad topic, No.
It'll be a good topic if you talk it with the right person :)
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Just Lance on February 19, 2015, 05:52:09 PM
^Yeah something like that.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Abrom on April 09, 2015, 09:30:59 AM
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Abrom:
And I agree with Kyo. Have you ever played Breath of Fire II? Awesome story. It's about a religion that teaches peace and love, but it knows that its followers will hate, and that hate feeds a monster deep underground. Epic story for a kid's game.
Today at 06:22:57 AM
Abrom:
I have an uncle that's convinced the Quran is evil, after hearing some verses on the radio. I'll have to show him this site sometime - [url]http://www.islamicwritings.org/quran/peace/does-the-quran-teach-violence/[/url] ([url]http://www.islamicwritings.org/quran/peace/does-the-quran-teach-violence/[/url])
Today at 06:21:04 AM
Kyo:
yeah, it's not like islam is particurarly evil. All religions are.
Today at 06:04:27 AM
Erenussocrates:
I hate arguing with random people over youtube who think that islam is evulz just because of one terrorist group, lol
Today at 05:50:24 AM
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: atommo on April 09, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
To me it seems like a lot of religions were intended to teach goodwill, and some do, but others seem to have been misunderstood. However; it seems that lots of people follow it like its a way of life. To me, religion is meant to be there as an example, not as a way of life.

Religion is like a bunch of stories that are meant to show how acting in certain ways can make you and other around you happy. However, through a chinese-whispers like way, over time religions have been passed down in more and more misunderstood and twisted ways, and you get all the different factions of a single religion.

In other words, you should live your life the way you choose, not how some religion says you should. If you choose to live by a religion, that's your own choice but no-one should have religion forced upon them. Whose to say you can't come up with your own beliefs independently?

That's just my take on it.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: GingerCorslette on April 09, 2015, 09:50:22 AM
To me, religion is meant to be there as an example, not as a way of life.

^I concur.

My country is predominantly Christian; subjecting religion or any of its rules to question could be considered very horrific here.  But based on years of observation, yeah, I say most Christians here don't really live the Christian life.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Kyo on April 09, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
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Kyo:
yeah, it's not like islam is particurarly evil. All religions are.
Today at 06:04:27 AM
Eh, I don't really want to talk about religion (I've already been lapidated twice this week and it's only Thursday) but this needs some clarifying. It was an oversimplification and technically a joke as pretty much everything I say.

The idea behind religions is pretty nice: they generally tell people to be good, help and love "thy neighbour" and so on. Unfortunately, religious people tend to fight for their religions while not understanding them. Or claim to Believe and don't even try to be good as their god tells them to be.


I can summarise this by quoting a Polish marshal, one of our great National Heroes. Just swap "nation" with "religion" and "people" with "followers". He said this about Poland. And yes, it's a genuine quote, translated literally by me.

[Warning: explicit language.]

Spoiler: show

"Beautiful nation, but its people are whores." - Józef Piłsudski
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 04, 2015, 12:59:13 PM
Atheist it is, for me.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, I knew that this place was a home for me :3 >wwwwwwwwwwww<
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Sun on May 04, 2015, 01:27:23 PM
Atheist it is, for me.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, I knew that this place was a home for me :3 >wwwwwwwwwwww<

Ummm. Not everyone here is an Atheist. Like, I'm a Christian.

Edit: And I also think discussing religion here has the potential for lots of trouble, so ... :S
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 04, 2015, 02:56:52 PM
I know everyone don't have to be atheist, but I'm speaking accordingly to the poll results >x3 That's why I said it is my home lol
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Sun on May 04, 2015, 03:33:31 PM
Ahh, I see. When I read that line, I felt so excluded :D
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Abrom on May 04, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
Ahh, I see. When I read that line, I felt so excluded :D
JOIN US
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 04, 2015, 09:09:35 PM
Naahh, don't do that abrom, lol
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Kyo on May 07, 2015, 03:43:15 AM
Here's some footage from an average discussion about religion:

Kingsman - Church Scene HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBBmOTNzMI4#)
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 07, 2015, 06:26:31 AM
Looks as lovely as console discussions <3
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: GingerCorslette on May 07, 2015, 10:24:57 AM
Hahah, "Freebird" playing in the background!
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Abrom on May 07, 2015, 01:41:36 PM
Hahah, "Freebird" playing in the background!
Holy shit, you're right!
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 07, 2015, 06:20:33 PM
Guitar solo of freebird is awfully repetitive. So is some of the music of freebirdgames (To The Moon and A Bird Story main themes). Mind=blown, universe implodes, illuminati confirmed.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: TheFlyingMarlin on May 07, 2015, 06:54:35 PM
Guitar solo of freebird is awfully repetitive. So is some of the music of freebirdgames (To The Moon and A Bird Story main themes). Mind=blown, universe implodes, illuminati confirmed.

I wouldn't say that the TTM and ABS music is awfully repetitive. Yes, much of it is the same main theme, but altered in a way that fits the story. Repetition isn't always a bad thing, and I feel like Reives is good at showing that.

And as for the topic of this thread, I identify as a Christian, but I feel like many people are bastardizing the teachings of Christ by judging others and being too self-centered, much like how ISIS and other groups are bastardizing Islam. My views are constantly evolving and changing every day, and looking back, there are times where I was agnostic, even though I didn't really acknowledge it. However, I try my best not to identify people and judge them based on their religious views.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 07, 2015, 10:46:14 PM

I wouldn't say that the TTM and ABS music is awfully repetitive. Yes, much of it is the same main theme, but altered in a way that fits the story. Repetition isn't always a bad thing, and I feel like Reives is good at showing that.


I didn't say it was bad anyways :P Music of TTM and ABS are brilliant, that repetitiveness is something that I can tolerate, it gives them their flavor I guess. But on the other hand I don't like Freebird's solo though.
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 16, 2015, 09:39:37 AM
Here's some footage from an average discussion about religion:

Kingsman - Church Scene HD ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBBmOTNzMI4#[/url])



Meanwhile Kyo, here's an another footage from an average religion discussion x'D

https://youtu.be/XRPW5bB3GCI?t=30s (https://youtu.be/XRPW5bB3GCI?t=30s)
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Abrom on May 16, 2015, 10:01:16 AM
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Meanwhile Kyo, here's an another footage from an average religion discussion x'D

https://youtu.be/XRPW5bB3GCI?t=30s
Can anyone translate what was actually being said in the video to make the guy react that way?
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Sun on May 16, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
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Meanwhile Kyo, here's an another footage from an average religion discussion x'D

https://youtu.be/XRPW5bB3GCI?t=30s
Can anyone translate what was actually being said in the video to make the guy react that way?

One of the commenters under that video said this:
"Mr. Sabri said ''i can fly , i have witness '' . But they did not believe to him.And one of the other guests started to telling and story about a liar.But Mr. Sabri started to shouting and rolling over.I could'nt understand what did he call.
After the presenter banished him kindly."
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: Erenussocrates on May 16, 2015, 04:29:04 PM
Yeah, pretty much like that. The guy is a madman and the show program sought to exploit that most probably :P And he shouts "allah" while attempting to "fly"

Edit: The text bar on the video says:"Mr. Sabri:'I levitated, I have witness!' "
Title: Re: Religion.
Post by: lepton on May 19, 2015, 08:04:02 PM
Theistic agnostic here.  So I guess I do believe in a god but have drifted from my Christian upbringing.  You can find the divine more easily in the arts and stories than moral systems (which evolutionary group selection can explain).  I think if when I looked inside of myself I didn't see only grey/darkness and hear tinnitus, I'd be drawn to Quakerism.  They were centuries ahead of everybody else on the abolition of slavery and decades ahead of them on gay rights.

But I've made a game out of my agnosticism, writing questions nobody will or can answer.  It passes the time.