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Title: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Valtier on October 29, 2009, 08:09:55 AM
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/10/26/chinese-mmo-company-jumps-gender-benders

Well, this is touchy.  It's a bit old, but I'm a stupid and only recently found out about this.  I realize that this is all fine in China, but is this morally incorrect?  To play devil's advocate a little, is it wrong to "roleplay" being of the other gender while online?

I'm a big MMO junkie, so while I can say that while there's points in favor of both sides, I personally think that this rule is terrible, particularly in how it's being executed (webcam verification).
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Just Lance on October 29, 2009, 10:17:24 AM
^Erm... I'm a guy, but I often play for females rom simple reason: It's funy to looking like a girl totaly outmach a monster what is twice of her size. ^^'
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Coach Travis on October 29, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
That sucks. I don't play MMO's, but I play some RPG's where you get to create your own character, and I almost always use female characters. I see no problem with it, as long as you stay in character:If you try to convince other people that your actually female in real life, when you're not, then that's wrong, but otherwise, I have no problem with it.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Amaranth on October 29, 2009, 06:36:07 PM
Most of my roleplaying characters have been female, but I like playing males, too, and like Travis says, it's fine as long as you don't pretend to be the opposite sex in order to do bad things.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: mepwnn on October 29, 2009, 08:45:55 PM
If Combat Arms was considered an MMO (it's not), then I could understand that; in that game, females have a slight advantage. Nut shots. Self explanatory.

But on topic, my brother likes to play as a girl and I see nothing wrong with that. I personally play as a guy (on World of Warcraft) on every character cuz I don't like to pretend, but I do find it kinda fun though.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Moony on October 29, 2009, 08:50:05 PM
I have never pretended. I have always been female because I am one. :3
I donīt see a point in being a male character. Just saying  :)
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Rayen on October 29, 2009, 08:57:22 PM
When I played MMOs, there were 2 or 3 people that played as the opposite sex and got me to believe their char's gender was their's as well. I was kind of taken aback, because I trusted them. Some of the things I said to them were somewhat personal. :-X

I think playing as the opposite sex is fine, except when you try and lie about your own actual gender.

I've sometimes played as male chars before, just for the fun of it.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: KuidonNZ on October 29, 2009, 09:07:31 PM
Usually I play MMO's as a male character.
But I have played as a female on some occasions, truthfully though its for the free stuff...  :reivsmile:
There are so many males out there who give stuff to females players.
I mean I dont atually pretend to be a girl, but I dont have to...

Its all in good fun.  :vikonsmile:
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Reives on October 29, 2009, 09:18:56 PM
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This sounds more like a scheme to get women to send in pictures of themselves.
^ :D


Mm, this' a rather bleh restriction. It does filter out problems like what Rayen said, but still quite a hassle - must be costly to supervise too. On my WoW account I had a male hunter named Reivier, a female shape-shifting druid named Lunair, male warrior named Vikon and priest name Kardian and the like for kicks - it was pretty fun to be able to do that.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: mepwnn on October 29, 2009, 11:48:37 PM
On my WoW account I had a male hunter named Reivier, a female shape-shifting druid named Lunair, male warrior named Vikon and priest name Kardian and the like for kicks - it was pretty fun to be able to do that.
:D :) I did that with one of my game characters, but for some reason, I just made it, I logged off, and came back to find it deleted O_o

Back on topic... I honestly don't see why it matters so much if people are gender-bending, as the article title states. Even if guys find it interesting to stare at their character's butts for 8 hours or like getting free stuff (I played a male priest in WoW and I gave out buffs out of sheer goodness). Plenty of people will do that if you just ask properly and don't ask for super expensive stuff.

But the fact that maybe some people would gender-bend to get people to come over... *shivers*
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Valtier on October 30, 2009, 12:01:26 AM
I have never pretended. I have always been female because I am one. :3
I donīt see a point in being a male character. Just saying  :)

That's actually one of the things that bothered me.  Women playing male characters weren't part of this rule.

But the fact that maybe some people would gender-bend to get people to come over... *shivers*

That's the only legitimate reason for this rule - not really 'coming over', but more of a broad 'lying about their gender in order to flirt with other men', and beyond that.  I'm not homophobic or anything, very much so not, but I'm also not supportive of deceit like that.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Kirroha on October 30, 2009, 12:25:26 AM
It's because there were a series of crimes where males playing as females get along with a real female in order to gain information and harm them.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Amaranth on October 30, 2009, 08:12:52 AM
We're not talking a single string of crimes here. This sort of thing happens all the time, and not just with female victims.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Vasha on October 30, 2009, 06:16:21 PM
I think it's fine as long as they don't start making people think that their gender is the one that there character has (like Stardale[?] said). anything online can be used in ways it was unintended, it's just knowing where to draw the line and being able to draw that line for yourself
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Moony on October 30, 2009, 06:30:53 PM
I have never pretended. I have always been female because I am one. :3
I donīt see a point in being a male character. Just saying  :)

That's actually one of the things that bothered me.  Women playing male characters weren't part of this rule.

But the fact that maybe some people would gender-bend to get people to come over... *shivers*

That's the only legitimate reason for this rule - not really 'coming over', but more of a broad 'lying about their gender in order to flirt with other men', and beyond that.  I'm not homophobic or anything, very much so not, but I'm also not supportive of deceit like that.
Why would anyone be so stupid to flirt with someone in MMO  :-X
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Just Lance on October 30, 2009, 06:34:26 PM
Why would anyone be so stupid to flirt with someone in MMO  :-X

You allways find peoples like that. I know it.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Rayen on October 30, 2009, 06:35:31 PM
Why would anyone be so stupid to flirt with someone in MMO  :-X
I resent that.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Moony on October 30, 2009, 06:56:20 PM
Why would anyone be so stupid to flirt with someone in MMO  :-X
I resent that.
So do you agree with me or disagree?  ???
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Rayen on October 30, 2009, 07:00:07 PM
It's not stupid to flirt with someone online.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: KuidonNZ on October 30, 2009, 07:03:37 PM
It's not stupid to flirt with someone online.
Agreed, its not stupid, but its not always a good idea either.
Because you will probably never meat the person it will end in heart break more often that real life.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Moony on October 30, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
It's not stupid to flirt with someone online.
Agreed, its not stupid, but its not always a good idea either.
Because you will probably never meat the person it will end in heart break more often that real life.
That is what I mean.
Besides person isnīt always who he tells you who he is. You can never be sure. Not really safe. In Estonia there have been few occasions when people even have made suicide because people from internet screwd their life up.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Amaranth on October 30, 2009, 08:20:14 PM
There was a horrible case like that here in the U.S. recently. A girl committed suicide because another girl and her mother set up a fake MySpace account and pretended to be a boy that liked the girl. The day before she died, the "boy" said the world would be better off without her.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: Moony on October 30, 2009, 08:25:47 PM
There was a horrible case like that here in the U.S. recently. A girl committed suicide because another girl and her mother set up a fake MySpace account and pretended to be a boy that liked the girl. The day before she died, the "boy" said the world would be better off without her.
This is sick  :angry:
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: KuidonNZ on October 30, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
^ It is... Some people obviously dont think of others feelings.
Title: Re: MMO Company Bans Male Players Playing Female Characters
Post by: mepwnn on October 31, 2009, 12:57:58 AM
I remember that one... That was just plain evil, especially of the mom. Terrible, terrible parents. And the other girl, too... People like that shouldn't be trusted anymore (coughdivorcethemomcough)